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It’s Zack Snyder vs. Joss Whedon as we break down the Justice League that MIGHT have been. Did the reshoots and rewrites by Joss Whedon save the film or would Zack Snyder’s original cut be a classic? We use Superman’s bad upper lip CGI to tell you where Whedon stepped in vs Zack Snyder plus an article on Digital Spy to piece together this pieced together superhero flick.

PLUS: We rank every DC film of the past 4 years with Rotten Tomatoes Tomatometer Critic Danielle Solzman

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Justice League: Our Review Notes

1.     The pivot to humor: very evident in this film saved it. There’s no question.

2.     Bad upper lip CGi

3.     The Trump of movies; either people loved it or hated it

4.     Superman: Vibrant colors. We actually get a real Superman: full of hope,

5.     Reminded me briefly of Season six of Buffy when he went dark.

6.     No real plot if you think about it

7.     What about that closing scene?Wonder Woman Ben Affleck

SNYDER VS Whedon:

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/justice-league/feature/a843529/justice-league-zack-snyder-cut/

The Russian family wouldn’t exist in Snyder’s version – the family are a Whedon addition and they don’t make a lot of sense. (Why that family? Where’s everyone else? Why don’t the Parademons break in and eat them? Are Parademons so weak they can’t get through a minor barricade?) But at least it leads to that funny gag involving The Flash pushing the car and Superman carrying a building, so it was worth it we guess?

The first proper meeting of the League appears to have been completely retooled by Whedon, and it’s the first sign that he completely changed the Superman narrative (pretty much every shot of Superman in this film has a wobbly lip, which means his dialogue was totally redone).

This is roughly the same as Snyder’s intended cut structurally, with significant reshoot changes. For instance, we assume we would have had Superman come back from the dead in the comic-referencing black suit we were promised on Henry Cavill’s Instagram in this scene.

Also, sources say a Cyborg premonition sequence – which would have played just before the team enacted the whole ‘bring Superman back from the dead’ plan – would have happened here.

It would have tied the plot more closely to the Knightmare sequence from BvS, suggesting that this is the evil Superman from that vision.

The subsequent fight between Superman and the League was all Snyder, but would have run longer, taken place at dusk, and would have involved more collateral damage. (Cyborg’s cut “You should probably move” line is from this scene.)

In Snyder’s version, we would have had more shots of the world reacting to the threat, as red skies cover everything. We would also have had far fewer lame quips from Batman.

There also would have been a resolution of a thread involving Aquaman’s trident, which Batman gives back to him in one of the trailers (the released film doesn’t tell us why he has it, or show us him handing it over).

Again, all the Superman stuff is Whedon’s, except for a couple of interactions between Superman and Cyborg – which presumably happen after this cut shot of Cyborg trying to deal with the Mother Box on his own (man, Cyborg was hard-done-by in the studio cut).

Also, Snyder wanted Wonder Woman to decapitate Steppenwolf, presumably because he killed so many of her people. Whedon changed it to that whole thing about the smell of fear (what is it with Joss and smells?) leading to his downfall at the hands of the Parademons, who won’t kill a terrified Russian family, but they will kill their boss (anti-climax much?).

The first post-credits sequence, in which Flash races Superman, is Whedon. The second post-credits sequence (aka the one that doesn’t look like it was shot on a VHS camcorder) is Snyder’s

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NEXT WEEK:  In partnership with the History Channel, we preview their new Knights of the Templar scripted series Knightfall! Is this the next Game of Thrones?

PLUS: We interview creator Dai Quan Cain who fulfills a lifelong dream with his new Kickstarter The Silent Descendants

We play “Would You Rather” with our guest Mariano Nicieza, co-creator of Stan Lee’s “Godwoke.” Would you rather…watch Justice League on opening night or binge watch Netflix Punisher? Would you rather…re-watch the Zack Snyder trilogy before going to see JL or re-watch the Star Wars prequels before Last Jedi? And more!

PLUS: Four Reasons the Justice League Movie Can Fail and Netflix Changes The Punisher’s Origin – does it matter?

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Would You Rather?

  1. Go see Justice League on opening night or binge watch The Punisher on Netflix?
  2. Go see either or re-watch Thor: Ragnarok?
  3. Re-watch the first two films from the Zack Snyder Trilogy before consuming JL or re-watch the Disney Star Wars films before Last Jedi?
  4. Binge the Marvel Netflix universe or the DC Arrow-verse?

 

Netflix’s ‘The Punisher’ Totally Reboots His Marvel Origin Story

https://www.inverse.com/article/38383-marvel-netflix-punisher-origin-reboot-mcu-comics

As Marvel’s The Punisher heads to Netflix on November 17, it’s worth observing how much Frank Castle has evolved. On the surface, TV’s Jon Bernthal looks the same as Frank Castle does in the comics: Black clothes? Check. Leather trench? Check. White skull? Ammunition belts? Check, check. But behind the scary arsenal, and inside his actual skull, there lies a different Frank Castle than we’ve known since 1974. In short, the origin story of the character is now totally different from the comics.

 

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NEXT WEEK:  We preview the highly anticipated JLA movie. Will last minute re-writes and re-shoots sink this DC Vessel? Or can Joss Whedon help the film rise above the negative buzz?

PLUS: We welcome Phazer creator Mariano Nicieza to the show to talk about his new William Shatner/Stan Lee collaboration.

Our Justice League re-shoots discussion turned into a full-on debate: are you Pro or Anti Joss Whedon? Can he save the movie that’s reportedly “Unwatchable” in its current state? Or is he overrated as a writer and director?

PLUS: Is Defenders Marvel’s swan song from Netflix with the new Disney streaming service announced?

Here’s an excerpt from the Podcast via: http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/early-cut-justice-league-deemed-unwatchable-substantial-changes-made/#gallery-8

 

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Poor Justice League. No matter how much good Warner Bros. does, the upcoming pic just can’t catch a break. Even after the smashing success of Wonder Woman, and a thrilling Comic-Con trailer for Zack Snyder/Joss Whedon’s team-up film that was very promising, negative buzz continues to surround it. That doesn’t change today, either, with a follow-up report coming in that expands a bit on what we heard last night.

To recap, yesterday we learned that Warner Bros. was apparently unhappy with a few things in Justice League. Namely, the tone – which they felt was too dark – and the portrayal of Cyborg. Now, Batman-On-Film has added onto that, telling us that the situation is much worse than it appears. Here’s what they had to say:

These reshoots – which are still taking place – are not standard pick-ups/additional photography. Why? Apparently, an early cut of the film was deemed “unwatchable.” Thus, substantial changes to the film were ordered.

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We break down ComicCon 2017: Black Panther, Thor, Justice League & more with actress & producer Jordan Elizabeth Gelber of StarBaby Enterprises & ComicCon expert Victor Dandridge Jr.

PLUS: The mustache that could change EVERYTHING for Justice League

What Spider-Man: Homecoming‘s box office means for Marvel as ComicCon2017 begins!

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Here’s an excerpt from the Podcast with guest correspodent Victor Dandridge Jr.:

Michael Dolce: So you got to get in there, we want to know the Hall H, from all my expert analysis and studying the Twitter chatter, Thor: Ragnarok was the big buzz, am I correct? What was the feeling on the floor?

VD: Warner Brothers is in the morning. Marvel is in the evening, so its the last one to close it out. You got people in Hall H waiting all day for the Marvel Studio crowd, so you got the lasting impression and the thing you talk about the most. So while your in there, yeah you can tweet, but your trying to pay attention on whats happening or whats going to happen. It’s a genius move by Marvel and I do feel bad for Warner Bros because they do get overlooked. From my position and first time being there, Warner Bros gave a better presentation.

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NEXT WEEK: We pit all the ComicCon trailers against one another for another round of Trailer ‘Truth or Trash!

PLUS: We go inside the new Dark Tower movie with contributing artist on the film and comic book adaptions Dennis Calero

We had a tremendous pot luck shuffle of a show last night. We talked Wonder Woman and her impact on the DC Film Universe, Spider-Man Homecoming and the not so brilliant move to keep the Venom movie OUTSIDE the MCU. And we mentioned briefly the passing of Adam West.

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-50:50: We compare Wonder Woman and the Captain America film franchises: Did Wonder Woman rip-off the MCU or is it simply the setting that reminds me people of each film?

-46:18: Critical Success for Wonder Woman: This is clearly the first win for DCU but Mike and Hassan have differing opinions on whether this was the first.

-39:58: Wonder Woman’s impact on DC Universe and Justice League: How this beat out Man Of Steel, BvS, and Suicide Squad. PLUS: The big debate on why Wonder Woman succeeded versus why Suicide Squad didn’t quite succeed

-27:27: Interview with Tom Ossa from WRCR radio. His take on the conversation of the day.

-11:25: Spider-man Solo Trilogy Confirmed by Tom Holland and why Venom is already failing by not partaking in the MCU.

-7:59: We go spinning the racks to bring you the most fantastical pop news out there including Gene Simmons, BumbleBee Transformers spinoff and more

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On the latest episode of Secrets of the Sire radio show and podcast we sink our teeth into True Blood actress Kristina Anapau. She dishes on the cult HBO show, her role in ‘Black Swan’ and why Vampires and Fairies weren’t supposed to hang out!

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PLUS: What’s the future of the Justice League now that Joss Whedon is in charge?

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Best known for her roles as Maurella on the HBO series True Blood and as Galina in Darren Aronofsky’s Black Swan we’ll chat about her experience on the HBO cult classic and play Fill In The Blank on the hot topics of the day.

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NEXT WEEK:It’s Ladies night! Actress Jordan Elizabeth Gelber of Starbaby Enterprises and women’s business coach Sarah Walton break down the female perspective behind DC’s Wonder Woman. With positive reviews hitting the ‘net will this be DC’s first and most important victory at the box office?

PLUS: You’ll get the usual male shenanigans from Mike and Hassan.

So you know when you watch a movie trailer and it’s like “Awesome! Spidey and Iron Man are holding a boat together that must be the climactic action sequence,” or “Wow! Batman cracked a joke! This movie must be super funny!”

But then you watch the movie and you’re like wait a minute…that trailer lied to me (I’m looking at you Suicide Squad)!

On this week’s episode of Secrets of the Sire we play ‘Truth or Trash’ with the Justice League and Spider-Man: Homecoming trailers. Hassan and host Mike Dolce break down the key moments of each trailer and predict what scenes will actually ring true when the movie hits the big screen.

PLUS: Ghost in the Shell hits theaters this weekend – does anyone care?

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NEXT WEEK: We welcome comedian and actor Alex Berg on from the Funny or Die parody ‘Gay of Thrones’ to talk about the return of your favorite fantasy action sexual thriller. And we’ll talk about the new Game of Thrones trailers while we’re at it.

First, we’ll continue our Fall Preview and turn our attention to the movies. Namely, Doctor Strange which is pretty much the only Fall Movie worth noting (sorry Star Wars fans, you’ll have to wait until the weather turns cold to get your due with Rogue One). Tilda Swinton’s casting is swirling with controversy. We break down why it was the right – and wrong – move to bring her in as the Ancient One!

Second, we welcome Chris Kotsakis, one of the brains behind ArtistaCon – a brand new comic convention that focuses strictly on the creative process and artwork, not the name brands you’ve come to expect

Finally, we’ll dive into the controversial take Tyler Hoechlin had on his vision for Superman on the CW’s Supergirl . Was he taking shots at Zack Snyder?

Get a sneak peek by clicking the  link below and checking out the article about it from Inquisitr:

‘Supergirl’: New Superman Tyler Hoechlin Takes Shot At Zack Snyder

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This week on Secrets of the Sire we’ll bid adieu to summer 2016! Who were the big winners and losers in the pop culture world? And what’s to come for summer 2017?

PLUS: It’s on to our Fall Preview! Walking Dead, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Arrow, Flash and more! And you KNOW I’m gonna talk Justice League Dark and Deathstroke when we go spinning the racks!

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On the latest episode of Secrets of the Sire radio show & podcast we talk Spider-Man: Homecoming and the controversial casting of Disney child star Zendaya as Mary Jane Watson. Has “race swapping” become an issue in comic book movies? Or is there a larger agenda at play that could result in the downfall of Marvel movies as we know it?

Plus: We welcome Sailor Moon Crystal ADR writer Deborah Crane to talk about the show, the business and the best Anime and Manga titles you need to consume!

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Check out an excerpt from the podcast:

Zendaya in Spider-Man: Homecoming: Is Race The Issue Or Something Deeper?

“While Zendaya is of mixed race, it’s not far fetched that she could pull off red hair which is really the core characteristic the Mary Jane Watson character is ascribed to. In fact there are several photos of Zendaya with red hair on the internet and her appearance is pretty close to what Mary Jane would look like despite the mixed ethnicity.

No, it was an article posted on a web site called Grunge prior to the Mary Jane casting announcement that insinuated something far more sinister at foot regarding Marvel’s parent corporation in Disney.”

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